[trins54]

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Bravo PRS! I love how you guys actually read these threads and drop in from time to time to leave a comment. And you're nice about it, even if you disagree with what you're replying to.

Kudos!!

Yes i totally agree.. They are very dedicated to there fans... It's aweasome they take time outta there busy schedules!!
Thanks PRS Team and Mediums!!
You guys are aweasome!

[OpenMindedDave19...]

Hey Dave,
An excellent idea/suggestion, and it's actually one we investigated during the investigation. We wondered if there was anything physical there, like a handprint stain, etc. But nothing. The other odd thing is that the handprint DID disappear after another 5-10 minutes.

It was some incredible data...great job...some of the best FLIR footage I've seen yet.

[dolphinscry]

The impressions there were strong, so I gathered that the person who stood at that sink had seen things, or thought she saw things, out that window several times. Logic told me it had to be the mother. The impressions were definitely from a living person, after all. The emotional echoes I pick up from spirits or residues always seem drier, somehow, than the echoes of the living. If that makes any sense outside of my own head!

I will say, it can be tricky reading a house when I have to sort through the lingering emotions and such from the living before I dig my way down to the older impressions and the energy of the dead. That's what I get for not being a pure spirit medium, like some others who have come on the show.

--M

Hi, Im pretty new here, but have been a fan of the show since it has been on A&E.

As far as reading a home, it seems like I got MORE information from you becasuse of the way you "sorted" through it. Kind of like reading the whole book, as opposed to just the ending. I was really impressed with everybody, as always! It is so amazing how much gets packed into that 1/2 hour.
I do wish ya'all would go to an hour, though, also! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Seeing that gloved hand on the wall was erie. I can imagine the anger and resentment he had towards all women, and it is so sad that his wife cannot escape him, even in death.
I pray she can somehow move on.

Thanks for a great show, and I cant wait till next week!!
~Lori

[heyhowyadoin]

i thought this was one of the best episodes yet if not THE best......chad and michelle are great additions to the show....i hope they are included more often.

any updates on the family? have they continued to remodel the upstairs???

again, just a GREAT episode!

[faithfirst]

PARANORMAL STATE 2:
Episode 2.9: "The Glove"
Monday, September 8th, 2008, 10:00pm EST/9:30C

WHAT A&E SAYS:
When a terrifying haunting threatens to break a Daisytown, Pennsylvania couple apart, PRS is their last resort. Will a menacing sign from beyond the grave lead a skeptical husband to believe in ghosts? As the investigation deepens, PRS and the family learn that it's just the tip of iceberg. Turns out this haunting might be all in the family. Tech specialist Chad Calek and Psychic Michelle Belanger join PRS in one of their strongest paranormal cases to date.

WHAT PRS SAYS:
Thermal handprints, sexy women, heart-breaking clients and a great resolution!

Dear Ryan,

No offense or attack intended...what was the "great resolution?" Isn't the angry entity continuing to pester the women and children in the house?

Thank you for your and your team's efforts to help in Daisytown.

[Parapsychologist...]

Dear Ryan,

No offense or attack intended...what was the "great resolution?" Isn't the angry entity continuing to pester the women and children in the house?

Thank you for your and your team's efforts to help in Daisytown.

That is a good question........

[Psy]

Hey Ryan, when Chip saw the shadow, did you guys notice that it showed up on camera? There's a clip of it here.

[APACHI]

My friend who is a medium told me that a friend of mine carries with her and she doesn't even know this (friend) that she carries a lot of past hurt growing up and abused. And even though the negativity is so profound it unleashed its fury on me and when my friend who is the medium did a spiritual cleansing, she said it will take some days for this to pass.

Well it happened that night the fury of ugliness reared it's fury on me and causd me a lot of stress and I have never been so afraid that my friend had to speed over to my house to help me cleanse this place and call on my aboriginal ancestors to help rid everything, everything is in general, because my abused friend had been over here alot. And so when someone comes over and you feel uneasy, tell them to leave or leave with them just to get them out of your house, car etc. You don't need this crap, this is what my spiritual medium friend told me, other things she told me that this so called friend isn't really my friend, she's just using me and I told her I know that I guess I just didn't think it was that bad.


Never second guess danger, its all around, you just can't see it, but know it's there watching you from a far. wendymartin

[axl123]

I just finally had a chance to see this on utube (oops..fell asleep last week)...This has to be the best episode yet people!!! The evidence was outstanding. I esp. enjoy Chad and Michelle whenever they are on. I wonder if there are any plans to follow up on this or any of the episodes in the future.

[raggedyann87]

I have to agree with everyone else this is a great episode and Michelle and Chad were amazing additions.

[lancemfoster]

The glove imprint captured by the FLIR was a trip. That was pretty amazing, if it has already gone through debunking and there is no explanation.

There seems to be a repeat of relationships in that family. In the older generation, the grandfather dominated and abused his wife verbally, emotionally, and physically. While the new generation, that of the homeowners, may not have physical abuse involved (can we be sure?) there did seem to be some issues of emotion and verbal disparaging: the flippancy in the attitude of the man about what his wife was experiencing. I wonder if the grandfather's spirit may be influencing the attitudes of his grandson?

If so, there is enough evidence to recommend the family move elsewhere, leaving that tragic thread of family relationships behind.

[Arthurs]

Doesn't the woman put her left hand on the wall at the beginning of the clip while opening the "really small closet"?

And within seconds the left hand is visible on the wall just above her shoulder height?

It looks obvious to me that she made the hand print...and then forgot what she might have touched.

[countrygirl1536]

***Ryan and the crew- please read.***

Did anyone notice that when Ryan went to hug the female owner of this home at the end, in the window behind her, as he was leaning down to hug her, a shadow was leaning up? I seen it clear as day! I have DVR so I rewound it a few times and it is definitely there. Is this maybe a reflection of a different crew member or something else? Very interested in finding out. Seems as if no one else noticed or at least I have not seen anything about it.

Great show- my daughter and I love watching all episodes. I am intrigued by the paranormal. Don't know what I would do if I ever saw something in real life-- probably tinkle a little LOL. Keep up the great work~

[Guest_Topher_PRS_*]

Doesn't the woman put her left hand on the wall at the beginning of the clip while opening the "really small closet"?

And within seconds the left hand is visible on the wall just above her shoulder height?

It looks obvious to me that she made the hand print...and then forgot what she might have touched.

She did put her hand on the wall next to the closet, but not where the hand print was. The crew also spent a great deal of time trying to debunk it by placing their own hands on the wall, only to have it disappear in seconds, while the other hand print remained visible for a much longer period of time.

[paranormal_state...]

when i saw that hand print and all the lights falling that really freaked me out hahaha that was one mad spirit.. any update on how the family is doing now?!?

[Pampered Cat 131]

The glove imprint captured by the FLIR was a trip. That was pretty amazing, if it has already gone through debunking and there is no explanation.

There seems to be a repeat of relationships in that family. In the older generation, the grandfather dominated and abused his wife verbally, emotionally, and physically. While the new generation, that of the homeowners, may not have physical abuse involved (can we be sure?) there did seem to be some issues of emotion and verbal disparaging: the flippancy in the attitude of the man about what his wife was experiencing. I wonder if the grandfather's spirit may be influencing the attitudes of his grandson?

If so, there is enough evidence to recommend the family move elsewhere, leaving that tragic thread of family relationships behind.

I just watched the clip of it in the "evidence" section. She clearly puts her hand exactly where the hand print shows up later, at 9:21:34 on the recording, and leaves it long enough for the print to last a while and be larger than her hand. The longer you leave your hand on the wall, the more heat soaks into the area. This makes the resulting print larger than the hand that made it, and makes it last longer than just touching would.

This post has been edited by Pampered Cat 131: Nov 2 2008, 09:45 PM

[amae51]

This one of my favorite episodes. I thought Michelle Belanger was a fantastic addition, I love her work anyways so it was great to see her on PRS. They collected an good amount of fantastic evidence- Excellent job!

[knowing Rena]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) [font="Book Antiqua"][/font][size="2"][/size][color="#0000FF"][/color] Better late than not at all. Yes, Michelle did lean on the wall with her left hand. However, when she had her back to that same wall, with her hands at her side, she was standing further down the wall. Her hand print, if it did remain as some stated, would have been far left and possibly not in view of the FLIR unit. I just wanted to clairify that. Also, At the time Michelle antaginised spirit by calling it a wife beater, I was screaming at my TV, because He, (entity) was standing right next to her and I questioned why she could not feel him or sense it there. Nonetheless, Michelle did state here on first page, that she was not a medium?. Maybe I should have just used her quote. Anyway, when I read that, I understood my own question.
With all that you), The PRS team do, is a wonderful, meaningful community service. And I know just how difficult these cases can be. ..I have been doing this type work for 40 years. And liken my self to Chip Coffee. I wish all of you great success in your quest for answers. And in helping real people with real concerns. God Bless each of you.

Rena The Ghostsleuth. Founder/President of P I of I ( Paranormal Investigators of Idaho)

This post has been edited by knowing Rena: Nov 17 2008, 02:06 AM

[M_Belanger]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) [font="Book Antiqua"][/font][size="2"][/size][color="#0000FF"][/color] I was screaming at my TV, because He, (entity) was standing right next to her and I questioned why she could not feel him or sense it there. Nonetheless, Michelle did state here on first page, that she was not a medium?. Maybe I should have just used her quote. Anyway, when I read that, I understood my own question.

Rena The Ghostsleuth. Founder/President of P I of I ( Paranormal Investigators of Idaho)

Rena --

I don't see spirits the way most mediums do. I did when I was very little, but I seem to have grown out of it (except in some very rare cases). What I do is pick up on energy, and I "hear" spirits with a sort of internal ear. It's more like a radio with bad reception, because the messages often fade in and out. My real expertise lies in picking up residues: the lingering energy of emotions from both the living & the dead imprinted in a place. Many times, this can manifest as a series of snapshot images in my mind. Like all psychics/mediums, I'm left to interpret the results, and if I slip up an impose my own expectations on a given impression, I can skew the results, just like anyone. (If you want some insight into my methods, I recommend "The Psychic Energy Codex," which I use to teach others what I do).

That guy came through loud and clear, but I never perceived him standing there. Just heard him in my head and caught a few brief images of a face with my mind's eye.

As for the hand/wall controversy -- I remember touching the wall to the left of the closet as I opened the door. But that point on the wall would have been to my own left once I was standing with my hands lowered against the wall. I was standing about dead center of the wall for that, and if I had touched the wall next to the entryway upon walking in, that print would have been closer to the doorframe, now over my shoulder. I'm fairly certain I didn't make that print, and one thing we did to test it (to answer one of the complaints above) was for ALL of us (me, Ryan & Chad) to place our hands against the wall for varying amounts of time to see what shape the prints took. Even placing my hand on the wall for 30 seconds or more, my handprint did not measure up to the print that appeared above my shoulder. That print also faded much more rapidly than the print on the wall. I think to imbue the wall with the kind of heat implied, if the print were made with a flesh-and-blood hand, we'd have had to soak our hands in scalding water and hold them there for nearly a minute to reproduce that effect.

But I commiserate with the folks who don't want to believe that it happened. It's an unsettling notion, thinking that I was pretty much nose to nose with an angry dead guy.

--M

[Parapsychologist...]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) [font="Book Antiqua"][/font][size="2"][/size][color="#0000FF"][/color] I was screaming at my TV, because He, (entity) was standing right next to her and I questioned why she could not feel him or sense it there. Nonetheless, Michelle did state here on first page, that she was not a medium?. Maybe I should have just used her quote. Anyway, when I read that, I understood my own question.

Rena The Ghostsleuth. Founder/President of P I of I ( Paranormal Investigators of Idaho)

Rena --

I don't see spirits the way most mediums do. I did when I was very little, but I seem to have grown out of it (except in some very rare cases). What I do is pick up on energy, and I "hear" spirits with a sort of internal ear. It's more like a radio with bad reception, because the messages often fade in and out. My real expertise lies in picking up residues: the lingering energy of emotions from both the living & the dead imprinted in a place. Many times, this can manifest as a series of snapshot images in my mind. Like all psychics/mediums, I'm left to interpret the results, and if I slip up an impose my own expectations on a given impression, I can skew the results, just like anyone. (If you want some insight into my methods, I recommend "The Psychic Energy Codex," which I use to teach others what I do).

That guy came through loud and clear, but I never perceived him standing there. Just heard him in my head and caught a few brief images of a face with my mind's eye.

As for the hand/wall controversy -- I remember touching the wall to the left of the closet as I opened the door. But that point on the wall would have been to my own left once I was standing with my hands lowered against the wall. I was standing about dead center of the wall for that, and if I had touched the wall next to the entryway upon walking in, that print would have been closer to the doorframe, now over my shoulder. I'm fairly certain I didn't make that print, and one thing we did to test it (to answer one of the complaints above) was for ALL of us (me, Ryan & Chad) to place our hands against the wall for varying amounts of time to see what shape the prints took. Even placing my hand on the wall for 30 seconds or more, my handprint did not measure up to the print that appeared above my shoulder. That print also faded much more rapidly than the print on the wall. I think to imbue the wall with the kind of heat implied, if the print were made with a flesh-and-blood hand, we'd have had to soak our hands in scalding water and hold them there for nearly a minute to reproduce that effect.

But I commiserate with the folks who don't want to believe that it happened. It's an unsettling notion, thinking that I was pretty much nose to nose with an angry dead guy.

--M

Thank you so much for giving us the insight into your abilities, and how they work. It was very informative. Also, thank you for the suggested reading material. I will definitely be picking that up..sounds like it will be a very interesting read.

As for the thoughts on the hand imprint, I had thought that it would take a very serious form of heat to be applied to the human hand to get that result. I was also thinking along the same lines as you were. That a hand would have to be burned..or submersed in extremely hot water to be able to obtain even a similar effect as the one on the wall.